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package      cost  setup  multPOP  adrbk  news   www  ftp  telnet
-------      ----  -----  -------  -----  ----   ---  ---  ------
WWW/LX        $79   easy      yes   good   yes   yes  yes    yes
Goin'Postal    no   easy      yes   good    no    no   no     no
LXTCP/PNR      no   hard      yes   weak   yes    no  yes    yes
LXTCP/ccLXPOP  no   hard     simi   okay   yes    no  yes    yes
cc:Mail        no    N/A       no   okay    no    no   no     no
Compuserve    $??   ????       no   ????    no    no   no     ??
PalmLink       no   easy      yes    N/A   yes    no   no     no
NetTamer      $35   hard       no   okay   yes   yes  yes    yes
(v1.08>

NOTES

Cost reflects only software. The price for an ISP is more.

You can get telnet (and news, www, ftp, etc.) with GP if you track down the extra programs. You would use GP to establish the connection and escape out of it to run the others.

WWW/LX has pretty capable filtering functions, LXTCP/PNR has only a simple kill function. ccLXPOP has a nice folder system. I'm not sure about GP, but think it is somewhere inbetween the two.

I get web access with LXTCP/... by opening a telnet session to a Unix shell account and running Lynx on the remote server. It's pretty limited, but meets many of my needs. LXTELNET also acts as an ftp server, which can be handy for file transfers.

PalmLink runs on a windows computer and converts Eudora's email boxes to database files on the 200lx.

NetTamer has desktop and palmtop versions--it's highly configurable, but not for the faint-hearted. Some supplemental shareware utilities can be had to ease the pain. The 1.08 web browser is pretty lame...

DataComm is another option, if you have a dial-up account somewhere. Of course the the same calling cost issues would exist as with cc:Mail. You would also be managing your e-mail on another server somewhere, not on your HPLX.

CONCLUSIONS

If you only want e-mail, I would suggest Goin' Postal. If you want more function I would suggest either WWW/LX or LXTCP/PNR, whichever works with your budget and computer prowess.

Hope this information helps. I trust others will correct any mistakes I've made in my presentation.

dosppp

Just for information, a typical PPPD.CFG file looks like:


COM2
19200
crtscts
connect "chat '' AT&F OK ATDT6160000 CONNECT"
user youruserinfo@yourISP.com
passwd yourpasswordhere
namsrv 204.127.129.1
namsrv 204.127.160.1

namsrv in the above example are the primary (and alternate, if available) DNS servers at your ISP. COM1=Serial, COM2=PCMCIA. One "GOTCHA" that caught me: in the "connect" line above, spaces in the text between the " marks is critical. For example, if you change the above to read ATDT 6160000 in the above string, it will not work. It can be tricky getting this part setup.

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[pppd.cfg]
com2
38400
crtscts
connect "chat REPORT CONNECT ABORT BUSY '' AT&F OK ATDT77570009 CONNECT"
user "xxx"
passwd "yyy"
namsrv 206.64.96.2
namsrv 206.64.96.3

Notes:
*if you need a special initialization string for your modem, edit the AT&F
*put your own dialup number in place of 7757000
*if using a modem with the 200LX serial port, use com1 instead of com2
*replace the xxx with your login username and yyy with your login password
*put the IP numbers for your ISP's DNS in for the namsrv numbers
(you don't have to have two different numbers, but it can help)


Goin' Postal

I highly recomend this one for email. It's free and *very* easy to set up. Works with multiple hosts and ISPs. Easy switching between to modem setups as well.


*** Goin' Postal
* Connection via: Wired Serial MochaPPP gateway or External "Supra" modem
(With HP serial cable and NullModem addapter).
* Services: POP Mail; Telnet to my Unix Shell at University using the
Goin'Postal PacketDriver (I press ALT+S and it gives me a DOS prompt and
I then run the Telnet Client); Telnet to my favourite MUD (mud.dcc.online.pt
2345) for some RPG fun.

*** Goin' Postal - freeware
* Connection via: POTS, GSM( cable, no IR), Ethernet, Hardwire serial PPP
* Services: Multiple ISP's, multiple mailhosts: Mail+attachments,PGP,
calling cards(prepaid and billing)

Gather this information ahead of time (from your ISP):

* the names of the servers for POP, SMTP, and NNTP
* the IP numbers for the primary domain name server (DNS)
(a second number is good, but not required)
* your username and password (if they are different for connecting
and for getting mail, you'll need both sets)

Then, enter it where asked.


cc:Mail

For a while www.palmtop.com provided a free test/$60 use cc:Mail service for users of the HP 200lx. It has dissapeared and is no longer in searvice. So, unless your comany uses *really* old software and has cc:Mail, useing this directly is not an option. You will se inother areas that people have gotten it to work other ways.

used to be:


*** cc:Mail
* Connection via: www.palmtop.com
* Services: email
very easy to set up but it's $60, which I can't aford. Quite
nice to not have to use up some of my C: space with a program. I use an
external modem

WWW/LX

Very easy setup, from what i've heard, very powerfull. I don't know, I can't aford to pay $60 for the software. Can be used with everything from internal modem cards, to external modems, to IRDA modems in cellphones.


*** WWW/LX Suite: WWW/LX, Post/LX, Robot/LX, Robonews/LX, PostPDU...
* Connection via:
Modem, Ethernet, IrDA (GSM, GPRS, HSCSD),
PPP over serial line (MochaPPP, PPPD),
* Services:
email POP3/IMAP, WWW(limited), Newsgroups,
SMS; highly enhanceable via Robot/LX,
which can be used to implement many kinds of new protocols

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Using WWW/LX, a GPRS connection is no problem, even via IrDA without any cables. However, an USB connection is NOT possible with the LX. But I rather think that this USB cable for the phone you mention is an USB to serial converter, so it may be possible to simply connect that phone to the LX via a serial cable. Usually serial cables for phone <-> PC connections need some electronics in it to change the signal voltage, though, so an expensive phone-specific cable is still needed, even if not USB.

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I use WWW/LX and I connect to the internet in many ways.

In the morning I connect my Hplx to my ADSL router via a Accton En2216 network card.

I download mails and newsmessages before I go to work. During the day I can connect to the internet via my Sony Ericsson T68i with IRDA.

It depends on how much stuff is on my emailaccount, but I can use either GPRS or HSCSD when I connect.

I also have a Psion DACOM Gold Card V34 Fax/modem, I seldom use it, but it works okey, but I have to have the AC adapter connected.

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Here is Daniels config file:
; Configuration file for WWW
; A. Garzotto, February 1998

[Global]
Command=C:\dfu\wwwlx\wwwmenu.exe
;(when www.exe is executed from command line without a program to run
;automatically, wwwmenu is executed. It lets you choose what to do (HV, Post/LX...))
Cache=C:\_DAT\WWWLX\WWW.CAC
Hosts=C:\_DAT\HOSTS
Setup=Modem1
;Log=c:\_DAT\WWWLX\WWW.LOG
UserName=Daniel Hertrich
RegID=xxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Setup]
Ether=Ethernet HomePC
Modem1=Modem on COM1
Modem2=Modemcard on COM2
IrDA=IrDA connection
PPPD=Connection to PPPD on Linux
TERM_IR=DumbTerminal_IrDA
TERM_K=DumbTerminal_Cable

[Script]
CHAP_Script=PPP dial up using CHAP or PAP
ISP_SLIP_Script=Generic SLIP (needs to be modified)
CIS_Script=Compuserve Classic dial up
pppd_script=PPPD on Linux over serial line or IrDA

[CHAP_Script]
e=Initializing modem
m=
s=\r
w=5 OK
d=
s=\r
w=75 CONNECT

[CIS_Script]
e=Initializing modem
m=
s=\r
w=5 OK
d=
s=\r
w=75 CONNECT
@=1
e=Connecting to CIS
s=\003
w=15 D:
e=Sending login
l=
s=/noint/ppp:cisppp
s=\\
e=Sending password
p=
s=\r
e=Waiting for CIS to respond
w=75 PPP

[ISP_SLIP_Script]
e=Initializing Modem
m=
s=\r
w=5 OK
d=
s=\r
w=75 CONNECT
s=\r
w=5 name:
e=Logging in
l=
s=\r
w=5 word:
e=Sending Password
p=
s=\r
w=5 :
e=Starting SLIP
s=SLIP\r
w=3 IP address is
i=

[pppd_script]
s=\r
@=3

; adjust and uncomment the following line to set up a HTTP proxy server
;HTTP_Proxy=proxy.zrz.tu-berlin.de:3128


[Ether]
Ether=1
My_IP=172.16.96.18
Peer_IP=172.16.96.1
;Peer_IP is the IP of the Computer which the palmtop is connected to (usually gateway)
DNS_IP=217.5.100.1
DNS2_IP=194.25.2.129
Script=CHAP_Script
Login=DOESNTMATTER
ModemInit=AT&F
Dial=00000
Password=DOESNTMATTER


[Modem1]
Port=1
OmniGo=0
PPP=1
Modem=1
Baud=57600
My_IP=0.0.0.0
DNS_IP=0.0.0.0
DNS2_IP=0.0.0.0
Script=CHAP_Script
ModemInit=AT&FL1
Dial=ATDT31553500
Login=dherbgba
Password=xxxxxxx

[Modem2]
Port=2
OmniGo=0
PPP=1
Modem=1
Baud=57600
My_IP=0.0.0.0
DNS_IP=0.0.0.0
DNS2_IP=0.0.0.0
Script=CHAP_Script
ModemInit=AT&FL1
Dial=ATDT31553500
Login=dherbgba
Password=xxxxxxx


[IrDA]
Port=-1
OmniGo=0
Modem=0
PPP=1
Baud=38400
My_IP=0.0.0.0
DNS_IP=0.0.0.0
DNS2_IP=0.0.0.0
Script=CHAP_Script
ModemInit=at+cbst=71,0,1;+chsn=1,1,0,4
;For correct settings of init and dial string for your mobile phone,
;please read http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx
Dial=ATDT03031553500
Login=dherbgba
Password=xxxxxxx


[PPPD]
Port=1
OmniGo=0
PPP=1
Modem=0
Baud=38400
My_IP=0.0.0.0
DNS_IP=0.0.0.0
DNS2_IP=0.0.0.0
Script=pppd_script
Login=
ModemInit=
Dial=
Password=


;===================== Dumb Terminal Setup ===================
; CALL WITH www -d TERM-[IR|K] "!telnet local"
; useful e.g. to send AT commands manually to a modem or mobile phone

[TERM-IR]
Port=-1
Baud=38400
Modem=1
Script=T_Script

[TERM-K]
Port=1
Baud=19200
Modem=1
Script=T_Script

[T_Script]
?=
e=done


NetTamer

One program to rule them all. Or, that is the plan. This progam has the ability to do news, email, ftp, www, and telnet. Although in my experience, it doesn't do it very well. For setup you you need to know your ISP's phone number, the DNS number, your username and password, your email servers adresses, your email username and password, and modem information. But in all, it's quite easy to set up.

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Net-Tamer (N103-PT.ZIP)

This suite, written by David Colston, is the most popular among Palmtop users. It provides the five internet functions mentioned earlier and works with PPP connections. Unlike DosLynx and MINUET, it does not require additional programs for setting up the connection, since it has built-in support for this. There is a special version available for the Palmtop, which has been optimized for the limited hardware.

Internet: ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS/internet/ n103-pt.zip

CompuServe:

HPHAND/Lib.9/NETTAMER.ZIP

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Setting up Net-Tamer on your HP Palmtop

This Internet suite is the most popular with Palmtop users. It lets you access e-mail and other Internet services from your Palmtop using a PPP connection.

Transfer the Net-Tamer files to your Palmtop and then run Net-Tamer's READER.EXE to set up the program. The first menu lets you set up your modem. When you're finished setting up the modem go to the next menu and fill out items A through I. Please note that when you enter the phone number(s) of your ISP, you will also be prompted for the file name of your login script. Depending on how your service provider is set up, you may be able to use one of the scripts supplied by Net-Tamer (see sample below). If not, the document NETTAMER .DOC has more information on writing login scripts.

Sample ISP script for connecting to CompuServe:

BLAST <13>

WAIT Name:-OR-#500

DELAY 20

BLAST CIS<13>

WAIT ID:-OR-#300

DELAY 10

BLAST Username$/go:pppconnect

WAIT word:-OR-#100

DELAY 10

BLAST Password$

WAIT PPP-OR-#300

DELAY 10

PPP

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Main Computer

These are programs that run under Windows(tm).

LXETH

Avalable from the maker of LXTCP. Network/Ethernet card driver.

?

Not sure what method these use, email me if you have informaion at peter.olson[at]gmail {dot} com.

Compuserve

Old way to share information on the net, half-dead now. HPHAND forum is not used much, HPLX email list the newer 200lx ownwer meating area.

I don't have a compuserve number and so help and hints in this area would be nice.

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Many Palmtop users are familiar with CompuServe, the home of the HPHAND Forum which supports the HP Palmtops. CompuServe is a commercial network which also offers a gateway to Internet, allowing CompuServe subscribers some access to Internet's resources.

CompuServe is a world-wide network and can be accessed through local phone numbers in a large number of cities around the world. It is thus ideal for very mobile Palmtop users.

Once connected to CompuServe the subscriber will either use a VT emulator or CompuServe's proprietary Host-Micro Interface (HMI) which is supported on different platforms including DOS systems, such as the Palmtop.

CompuServe also offers true Internet connectivity using PPP.


AOL

A while ago someone configured a dos version for the 200lx. AOL nolonger suports the dos version. Thus, it is a useless and dead option.

EtherPPP

EtherPPP (in INETDOS.EXE) -- This program can be used in connection with DosLynx (a DOS-based Web browser) and Minuet (a suite of Internet applications, developed at the University of Minnesota) to establish a PPP connection from the HP Palmtop to a service provider's host system.

Internet:

ftp://ftp2.cc.ukans.edu/pub/ WWW/DosLynx/support/etherPPP.zip

CompuServe:

CIS: Internet New Users / CIS Dial PPP PCs / ETHPPP.ZIP

Slipper (SLIPARC.ZIP) -- If your service provider only allows a SLIP connection, you can use SLIPPER to establish the connection.

Internet:

ftp://ftp2.cc.ukans.edu/pub/ WWW/DosLynx/support/slippr15.zip

CompuServe:

Internet New Users / CIS Dial PPP PCs / SLIPARC.ZIP

MyIP (in INETDOS.EXE) -- When you create an Internet Protocol connection using the SLIP or PPP protocols, you are assigned a TCP/IP address. (TCP/IP is the standard protocol with which two machines on the Internet talk to each other.) The Internet programs you run will need to know this address and MyIP will set it for you automatically.

Internet:

INETDOS -- look under compuserve - inetdos -- for link

CompuServe:

Internet New Users / CIS Dial PPP PCs / MYIP.ZIP


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